anonymous function with rng call inside
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I would like to have a time domain function that uses a random number, but is stable over an interval. The anonymous function below does this, but it is not elegant.
f = @(t) {rng(ceil(t/10)), rand(1)}; % returns new random numbers each decade of t
f(2)
ans =
1×2 cell array
{1×1 struct} {[0.4170]}
The random number in second cell is what I want, but it can only be accessed through another variable. Is there a way in Matlab to simply return the random number without all the indirection?
Thank you for any help you can offer.
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William Buller
2026-8-22，16:15
Paul
2026-8-22，16:20
Are there bounds on t?
Matt J
2026-8-22，16:36
f = @(t) isstruct(rng(ceil(t/10)))*rand(1);
Not a good idea. You are assuming sub-expressions in the function are evaluated left-to-right. That is not reliable.Why does the function have to be anonymous?
Walter Roberson
2026-8-22，20:20
MATLAB has a well-defined order of operations, that mostly guarantees left-to-right operations (as modified by the operation precedences, that leads to oddities like c^a^b ). The main exception is the vaguely-documented linear algebra exceptions where for example a'*b might be specially evaluated rather than being evaluated as (a')*b
Matt J
2026-8-23，4:50
@Walter Roberson The order of operations is left-to-right, but not the order of computation of the operands.
Evidence?
format long g
e('+left',3)+e('+center',4)+e('+right',2)
e('*left',3)*e('*center',4)*e('*right',2)
e('.*left',3).*e('.*center',4).*e('.*right',2)
e('.^-left',3).^-e('.^-center',4).^-e('.^-right',2)
e('&&left',3)&&e('&¢er',4)&&e('&&right',2)
e('|&left',3)|e('|¢er',4)&e('|&right',2)
function v = e(where,v)
disp(where);
end
Paul
2026-8-23，12:38
Is there any documentation that prescribes the order of computation of the operands for an arithmetic operator? I can't find it, and therefore wouldn't assume any specific behavior.
I was curious about other languages. The AI result (whatever that's worth) from google for C was:
"In C, the order of evaluation for operands of most operators is unspecified. The compiler can evaluate them in any order it wants.
...
Important Rules to Remember
- No general left-to-right rule: For normal binary operators like + or -, f1() + f2() does not guarantee that f1() runs first.
- Function arguments: The order of evaluation for function arguments is also unspecified."
Related discussion here Is the Order of Function Evaluation Guaranteed when Function Outputs are Concatenated into an an Array? - MATLAB Answers - MATLAB Central on order of computation when constructing matrices via concatenation, which also includes discussion on order of computation of operands in expressions with arithmetic operators.
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f = @(t) struct('rng', rng(ceil(t/10)), 'r1', rand(1)).r1
f(2)
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Walter Roberson
2026-8-23，8:59
Yes, we can be sure that the first field will be calculated before the second field, and we can be sure both struct field will be assigned before that dereferencing. struct is not a special operator, so it is bound by the general rule that operands are evaluated left to right -- first the character vector 'rng' then rng(ceil(t/10)) then the character vector 'r1' then rand(1) . Once those are evaluated, they are pushed on the stack for the call to struct and the call to struct is made. The call to struct returns a structure, and then the . operator dereferences a field of the structure.
The functionality of using dot indexing off of the result of an expression is documented somewhere; unfortunately I do not find the relevant portion of documentation at the moment.
struct is a built-in function
exist struct
Does the documentation prescribe that arguments to a built-in function call are evaluated one-at-a-time and left-to-right? I can't find anything.
struct's implementation is built-in -- which means it is implemented as compiled code rather than as .m code.
struct is not, however, a special function. parameters to struct as calculated the same way nearly everything is calculated.
The only special functionality that I can think of at the moment is:
- int64() and uint64() enclosing an integer constant with no operators, causes the enclosed constant to be parsed as 64 bit. This is special behaviour: normally the enclosed constant would be parsed as double precision and the resulting double precision would be passed to the function
- certain linear algebra expression sequences are specially evaluated, such as A'*B is not evaluated as (A')*B
- the || and && short circuit operators might not execute the right-hand-side operands
e('&&left_true', 2) && e('&&right_true', 3)
e('&&left_false',0) && e('&&right_true', 3)
e('&&left_true', 2) && e('&&right_false', 0)
e('&&left_false', 0) && e('&&right_false', 0)
function v = e(cond, v)
disp(cond);
end
Paul
2026-8-23，21:02
Yes, struct is a built-in function and there is nothing special about it, which was exaclty my point, i.e., there is no documentation on the order of argument evaluation in a function call (at least not that I can find). If it's not documented, then it's "undefined behavior" and one takes one's chances when relying on undefined behavior, which can change from one release to the next, or coulde even be different within a release. I'm not suggesting that in this particular use case that the risk is large, but it's not non-zero until Mathworks says so.
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function y=f(t)
rng(ceil(t/10));
y=rand(1);
end
t = 2*(rand(1,1000)-0.5)*100;
figure
plot(t,f(t,10),'b.',t,f(t,10),'r.')
function y = f(t,interval)
tinterval = ceil(t/interval);
[C,ia,ic] = unique(tinterval);
yout = rand(size(C));
y = yout(ic);
end
Matt J
2026-8-22，16:48
rng('default')
T= rand(1,10);
t=1:15;
T(ceil(t/10))
ans =
Columns 1 through 9
0.8147 0.8147 0.8147 0.8147 0.8147 0.8147 0.8147 0.8147 0.8147
Columns 10 through 15
0.8147 0.9058 0.9058 0.9058 0.9058 0.9058
But if you want to draw numbers from a random number generator with a particular seed value and they must be generated inside an anonymous function, without defining a "named" function, rng is not the right tool for this particular application. Use RandStream.create. This creates a temporary random number generator object from which you can draw numbers without affecting any other rand, randn, randi, etc. call.
f = @(t) rand(RandStream.create('twister', 'seed', t), 1, 2)
f(1)
f(2)
f(1)
rng(2, 'twister')
rand(1, 2) % Matches f(2)
rng(1, 'twister')
f(3) % doesn't affect the global generator [SL fixed typo]
rand(1, 2) % Matches f(1)
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